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#1 bdan2002

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 09:56 AM

Wow. Where shall I start. First, we have no idea of went on behind the scenes of this search. We are calling this a terrible hire; we are disappointed in RV;here UNT goes again; yadda yadda yadda. We were not in the interviews, we don't know who was in the search or who was not in the search. We have a head coach now, who if I think correctly had the number 4 ranked defense in the country (playing in the SEC) and coached in a national championship - wow UNT you chose a terrible HC. Give me a f'ing break. Yes we loved Coach Chico and he did a great job, Fran would have been a great hire, Mike Stoops would have been great. Yes we are offering him about 500k. Great. That shows UNT is making an effort to do something. But of course - people are saying - well, if we can pay him 500k, then we can pay coach Fran 500k. But this is a coach would could not get the job at UNLV. AGAIN, we don't know anything.

I guarantee you - the same people who are bitchin and moanin about this hire and writing RV and all this other bullshit, are going to be the ones that are going to be on the UNT bandwagon when we go to a bowl, or win a conference championship, or have a huge win at home. This reminds of Ron Washington with the Rangers. Everyone hated him and bashed him until he took the Rangers to a World Series. How about we show some faith and confidence in who was chosen as the HC, rather than trash it.

How about we give the new HC a f'ing chance before we pass judgment.

I could give a damn what Texas State does or UTSA or TCU or SMU - I am a UNT Alumni. I care what UNT does.

It makes me sad as a UNT Alumni to read these comments. Who would wanna come here and coach? UNT has not done shit in years in football, but suddenly we think that the next hot head coaching commodity wants to come here and save the world.

All I can do is laugh. I get so tired of coming on here and reading nothing but negative stuff about this hire. UNT is truly starting fresh - a new $78 million stadium, a coach making $500k (when did we ever think that was going to happen at UNT) and a new coaching staff (hopefully keeping coach Chico).

If I pissed some of you off, I am sure you will eventually get over it. We got the best coach, for UNT, at this moment. Welcome Coach Mac!!!!!
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:03 AM

Wow. Where shall I start. First, we have no idea of went on behind the scenes of this search. We are calling this a terrible hire; we are disappointed in RV;here UNT goes again; yadda yadda yadda. We were not in the interviews, we don't know who was in the search or who was not in the search. We have a head coach now, who if I think correctly had the number 4 ranked defense in the country (playing in the SEC) and coached in a national championship - wow UNT you chose a terrible HC. Give me a f'ing break. Yes we loved Coach Chico and he did a great job, Fran would have been a great hire, Mike Stoops would have been great. Yes we are offering him about 500k. Great. That shows UNT is making an effort to do something. But of course - people are saying - well, if we can pay him 500k, then we can pay coach Fran 500k. But this is a coach would could not get the job at UNLV. AGAIN, we don't know anything.

I guarantee you - the same people who are bitchin and moanin about this hire and writing RV and all this other bullshit, are going to be the ones that are going to be on the UNT bandwagon when we go to a bowl, or win a conference championship, or have a huge win at home. This reminds of Ron Washington with the Rangers. Everyone hated him and bashed him until he took the Rangers to a World Series. How about we show some faith and confidence in who was chosen as the HC, rather than trash it.

How about we give the new HC a f'ing chance before we pass judgment.

I could give a damn what Texas State does or UTSA or TCU or SMU - I am a UNT Alumni. I care what UNT does.

It makes me sad as a UNT Alumni to read these comments. Who would wanna come here and coach? UNT has not done shit in years in football, but suddenly we think that the next hot head coaching commodity wants to come here and save the world.

All I can do is laugh. I get so tired of coming on here and reading nothing but negative stuff about this hire. UNT is truly starting fresh - a new $78 million stadium, a coach making $500k (when did we ever think that was going to happen at UNT) and a new coaching staff (hopefully keeping coach Chico).

If I pissed some of you off, I am sure you will eventually get over it. We got the best coach, for UNT, at this moment. Welcome Coach Mac!!!!!


Don't worry, the bitching stops Tuesday.

I will be on the Mac train, although getting on the Mac train will be more like getting on a commuter train that takes you to work than getting on the party train that takes you to Las Vegas.

Who knows, maybe he wins the Sun Belt next year.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:20 AM

We got the best coach, for UNT, at this moment.


This, and this alone, is what people are disagreeing with. Many, myself included, believe that we already had the best coach for UNT at this moment. Sure, some are saying McCarney is horrible, etc, etc but most simply feel that the man with the unique combination of personality and ability to win (yes win, it's not like he even got a full year to work with) AT NORTH TEXAS is being put out to pasture. I don't doubt that McCarney will be a good coach. Some just feel that Canales could have been better.




I'll reserve my thoughts on just who was pulling the strings on this hire for a private setting.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:25 AM

This, and this alone, is what people are disagreeing with. Many, myself included, believe that we already had the best coach for UNT at this moment. Sure, some are saying McCarney is horrible, etc, etc but most simply feel that the man with the unique combination of personality and ability to win (yes win, it's not like he even got a full year to work with) AT NORTH TEXAS is being put out to pasture. I don't doubt that McCarney will be a good coach. Some just feel that Canales could have been better.

I'll reserve my thoughts on just who was pulling the strings on this hire for a private setting.


My exact thoughts. Will I support this hire - 100%

My question - Canales wanted to be here as the HC. Does Mac want to be here or does he look at this as his chance to "get back in"?
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:26 AM

Wow. Where shall I start. First, we have no idea of went on behind the scenes of this search. We are calling this a terrible hire; we are disappointed in RV;here UNT goes again; yadda yadda yadda. We were not in the interviews, we don't know who was in the search or who was not in the search. We have a head coach now, who if I think correctly had the number 4 ranked defense in the country (playing in the SEC) and coached in a national championship - wow UNT you chose a terrible HC. Give me a f'ing break. Yes we loved Coach Chico and he did a great job, Fran would have been a great hire, Mike Stoops would have been great. Yes we are offering him about 500k. Great. That shows UNT is making an effort to do something. But of course - people are saying - well, if we can pay him 500k, then we can pay coach Fran 500k. But this is a coach would could not get the job at UNLV. AGAIN, we don't know anything.

I guarantee you - the same people who are bitchin and moanin about this hire and writing RV and all this other bullshit, are going to be the ones that are going to be on the UNT bandwagon when we go to a bowl, or win a conference championship, or have a huge win at home. This reminds of Ron Washington with the Rangers. Everyone hated him and bashed him until he took the Rangers to a World Series. How about we show some faith and confidence in who was chosen as the HC, rather than trash it.

How about we give the new HC a f'ing chance before we pass judgment.

I could give a damn what Texas State does or UTSA or TCU or SMU - I am a UNT Alumni. I care what UNT does.

It makes me sad as a UNT Alumni to read these comments. Who would wanna come here and coach? UNT has not done shit in years in football, but suddenly we think that the next hot head coaching commodity wants to come here and save the world.

All I can do is laugh. I get so tired of coming on here and reading nothing but negative stuff about this hire. UNT is truly starting fresh - a new $78 million stadium, a coach making $500k (when did we ever think that was going to happen at UNT) and a new coaching staff (hopefully keeping coach Chico).

If I pissed some of you off, I am sure you will eventually get over it. We got the best coach, for UNT, at this moment. Welcome Coach Mac!!!!!


Completely agree!!! If I could give you a +1 from
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:27 AM

Don't worry, the bitching stops Tuesday.

I will be on the Mac train, although getting on the Mac train will be more like getting on a commuter train that takes you to work than getting on the party train that takes you to Las Vegas.

Who knows, maybe he wins the Sun Belt next year.


I feel the same. We all had our favorites, and no choice would have been a consensus.

Tuesday it becomes official, and I have all the faith in the world that our fanbase will get behind DM 100%, for the best interest of our beloved UNT.

Until then, let everyone blow off their steam, and try not to be too disappointed or embarrassed in us. We are acting this way out of passion and love for North Texas, as hard as that seems to be for you, and two or three others to believe.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:29 AM

I feel the same. We all had our favorites, and no choice would have been a consensus.

Tuesday it becomes official, and I have all the faith in the world that our fanbase will get behind DM 100%, for the best interest of our beloved UNT.

Until then, let everyone blow off their steam, and try not to be too disappointed or embarrassed in us. We are acting this way out of passion and love for North Texas, as hard as that seems to be for you, and two or three others to believe.



Great points. Every seems to have had one favorite and one "not him!"
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:37 AM

I feel the same. We all had our favorites, and no choice would have been a consensus.

Tuesday it becomes official, and I have all the faith in the world that our fanbase will get behind DM 100%, for the best interest of our beloved UNT.

Until then, let everyone blow off their steam, and try not to be too disappointed or embarrassed in us. We are acting this way out of passion and love for North Texas, as hard as that seems to be for you, and two or three others to believe.


Agree. I don't like the hire, but come Tuesday I will support him 100% as will almost everyone on here.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:40 AM

My exact thoughts. Will I support this hire - 100%

My question - Canales wanted to be here as the HC. Does Mac want to be here or does he look at this as his chance to "get back in"?

A legit question but to get back in he'll have to succeed here.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:43 AM

To many people voting with their heart instead of their head. To much inflexibility to look at other candidates and other viewpoints. Like any other polarizing issue, especially when dealing with the type of population you are going to find on college sports message board, you are going to have fragmented factions.

Accept that no one here was privy to the interviews. No one here knows all of the hard and soft criteria. No one here knows who else interviewed and what their salary demands where. No one on here knows who else is targeting any of the HC possibilities for their program as well.

For all of those who are clamoring for Chico would you be happy with him at $550k? Do you know if Chico bombed the interview or has a differnet view of the direction of the program than those making the hiring decision? For those who wanted Fran and Krag would you be still upset knowing they effectively priced themselves out of UNT's range? Those of you who wanted Leavitt and Leach would you change your mind if you knew the lawsuits are going to drag on for years and there is not real possibility of a settlement.

Why not wait a few days and get a little more information how the process was conducted and what happened during it instead of running around like a cicken with your head cutoff screaming "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!".



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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:45 AM

My exact thoughts. Will I support this hire - 100%

My question - Canales wanted to be here as the HC. Does Mac want to be here or does he look at this as his chance to "get back in"?


Can't you really ask almost the same question about Canales? He has been here less than a year and saw this interim position as his big chance to break out as a HC. He has done great things in these few weeks, and I really respect that. But, in the end, Mike Canales is out to be a HC. UNT just happened to be his best shot.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:56 AM

All I know is that you would not have had this outrage had you hired:

Canales
Fran
Kragthorpe

This guy and only this guy would bring this much frustration and angst. You don't want this from an alum - don't hire a guy from a losing program and expect him to decorate our new palace with W's. Yet you did.

So more old school North Texas is what we are dealt and it will be interesting to see it unfold. We are back at below ground zero and we just didn't have to go there - go green go white.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:56 AM

Don't worry, the bitching stops Tuesday.

I will be on the Mac train, although getting on the Mac train will be more like getting on a commuter train that takes you to work than getting on the party train that takes you to Las Vegas.

Who knows, maybe he wins the Sun Belt next year.


Great analogy.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:03 AM

Let the over-reaction begin.
The school does everything they should; upgrade the salary, interviewed experienced head coaches, makes a quick move. And what do we do a a board...
bitch, moan, and over react.

Really your embarrassed/ashamed/outraged/hurt/sad?

Any of the four candidates would have been great for UNT. I'm sorry you had a preface for one of the other candidates.

New Stadium + New Coach should equal a New Era, but with whinny, over-reacting, drama queen, message board fans don't want to let that happen.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:06 AM

All I know is that you would not have had this outrage had you hired:

Canales
Fran
Kragthorpe

This guy and only this guy would bring this much frustration and angst. You don't want this from an alum - don't hire a guy from a losing program and expect him to decorate our new palace with W's. Yet you did.

So more old school North Texas is what we are dealt and it will be interesting to see it unfold. We are back at below ground zero and we just didn't have to go there - go green go white.


I guarantee people would be up in arms if we hired Kragthorpe, probably more so than Mac. Canales doesn't have the HC experience we need and Fran had an equal shot at this job, and MANY others, and isn't getting a job - don't you think there's a reason he keeps not getting gigs? (slight pun intended)
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