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[BleedGreen]

WHat about the worst UNT players of all time? BUt, the player had to at least have started A game to be considered.

UNT Bottom 5:

1. Doug Shindler
2. Justin Howerton
3. - Mike Pistana
4. Sean Lathan....lol.
5.

Help me here!

[TallGreen06]

WHat about the worst UNT players of all time? BUt, the player had to at least have started A game to be considered.

UNT Bottom 5:

Help me here!

I'm just happy I managed to avoid that list.

I really didn't know much about UNT before coming to play here so I'll list off some of the best guys I played with.

Isaac "Snookie" Hines:
Just an all around great player and person and one of the best teammates I've had. One of those guys who would never get on you if you dropped a pass or did something wrong, but you were disappointed in yourself because you let him down. Played the point guard position as good as anybody I've played with and one of the best "lead by example" guys I've ever seen.

Jeffery "Skibo" Simpson:
When he was on a hot streak he could dominate a game inside just as well as Shawnson Johnson could. The only thing you could say bad about Jeff was that he needed some extra motivation some times to get going and was a little up and down, but if he had a couple good possessions to start a game, you could count on a hell of an inside presence until he had no more gas in the tank. He got off the floor so quickly it was like having an insurance policy on offense and defense. You knew you always had somebody back there with a very good chance of getting a block and all you had to to on offense was get the ball within 4 feet of the rim and he'd go get it. Jeff was also probably the best friend I had on the teams I played on at UNT.

Shawnson Johnson:
If there was ever a man that didn't need a nickname, this was him. If Shawnson could have stuck with just being a power forward/center he could have averaged 25 and 15 with 3-5 blocks a game every night EVEN if he still got in foul trouble. I don't think I've ever played with somebody as physically dominating and an absolute drive for the ball. Unfortunately he wanted to be Tracy Mcgrady, but if nothing else, it lead to some very entertaining scenarios. If anybody remembers him getting a rebound on defense, going coast-to-coast while getting hacked the entire time by an opposing guard, to throw down a monster 2-handed dunk on top of 2 other defenders, only to be called for a charge. I don't know if I've ever heard the crowd in the Super Pit make that much noise.

Chris Davis:
I never really realized everything that Chris did on the floor until you'd see the stat line the next day. He wasn't a flashy guy, wasn't the greatest athlete, but the man just went to work. You can't teach a scorer's mentality and Chris definitely had that. He was a tough match-up for opposing teams because of his size and you loved it when he would come to help on a low post double team. Its much nicer when you have 6'5 225 lbs. coming down to help.

Kenneth Mangrum:
Kenneth may not have been a big time scorer but there was nobody who loved taking the hardest defensive assignment more than he did. It was what he did outside of games that was more impressive to me. He came back from a major knee injury and by the next off season, he was in better shape than anybody on the team. Nobody worked harder in the weight room or during practice than he did. He was another guy you felt like you let down if you make a bad mistake.

Kendrick Davis/Calvin Watson/Leonard Hopkins:
I put these guys all together because they all filled a very similar role. In my opinion, Calvin was the best athlete out of the group, KD was the best shooter, and Leonard was the best at getting a shot whenever we needed one. I mentioned the scorer's mentality while talking about Chris Davis and it really is a gift and a mentality I think you have to be born with to be able to score like these guys. All 3 of them wanted the ball in their hands whenever we needed a shot and they all 3 came through for us numerous times.

I'm gonna end my little trip down memory lane there. There are some other guys I could list off, but I think these guys are the top of the list. Sorry if that was too much to read, I got a little carried away.

[cjones]

When I was at UNT I had the pleasure of watching Jesse Ratliff. The guy could surely stroke it. My number one! Saw him score 40 once and it was an amazing shooting display.

[NT80]

Some of my favorites:

Kenneth Lyons
Jesse Ratliff
Tony Worrell
Chris Davis
Jon Manning
Shawnson Johnson
George King
Deon Hunter
Ken Williams
Melvin Davis
Pat Hicks
Thomas Gipson
Calvin Williams
Ronnie Morgan

[UNT90]

Some of my favorites:

Kenneth Lyons
Jesse Ratliff
Tony Worrell
Chris Davis
Jon Manning
Shawnson Johnson
George King
Deon Hunter
Ken Williams
Melvin Davis
Pat Hicks
Thomas Gipson
Calvin Williams
Ronnie Morgan

Big Ron was a hoss. Loved to watch him rebound.

[Buford_Julep]

Some non-all-time-greats that for one reason or another won favor with this fan.

Ephriam McDaniel (Eeeeeee!)
Neill Adams (pg of the 69-70 team)
Robert Baker (first long-haired player)
Earl King (Chicago hot dog with extra mustard and relish)
Jeryl Sasser (Uncle of Chris Davis, father of the T Tech Sasser and a fine player in his own right)
David (Von Eric} Adkisson
Ricky Robertson (Walk-on)
Kevie Gulley (strange looking but effective outside shot)
Donald (Jet) Williams
Ray Schufford (Great shooter that transferred to D-2 for unknown reasons)
Rusty Walker (begged the coaches to put him into the game)
Jay Brown (6-2 walk-on post man)
George King (Outside shooter and good rebounder for his size)
Adam Smith (good post player)
Tony Jones (Very talented 6-5 power forward)
David Miller (Another very talented 6-5 power forward)
Sean Riley (7-footer that passed the ball to Davis Miller)
Tay Officer (Loved to dribble through traps without getting the ball stolen)
Calvin Williams (Not a shooter, not fast but an effective pg)
Ken Mangrum (Very hard-working, serious minded player)
Bryan Lucas ( Underated post man. Great length-of-the-court passer in last second situations. World's worst dribbler.)
Justin Barnett ( After many players had fouled out, I will never forget him dominating the FIU post in an overtime game)
Germaine Green (Proof that there are other ways to get rebounds besides being 6-10, 250 and muscling people out of the way)
Rusty Chiles (Walk-on forced into the starting line-up during JJ's injury-plagued second season)
Ty Thomas (Made some outstanding defensive plays. Had fun.)
Jared Ruffin (Walk-on who gave all-out effort every day. Was a D-1 player on the wrong team)
Harold Stewart (Great athlete who really enjoys playing basketball)

Edited by Buford_Julep, 25 December 2008 - 09:11 AM.

[Censored by Laurie]

Some non-all-time-greats that for one reason or another won favor with this fan.

Ephriam McDaniel (Eeeeeee!)
Neill Adams (pg of the 69-70 team)
Robert Baker (first long-haired player)
Earl King (Chicago hot dog with extra mustard and relish)
Jeryl Sasser (Uncle of Chris Davis, father of the T Tech Sasser and a fine player in his own right)
David (Von Eric} Adkisson
Ricky Robertson (Walk-on)
Kevie Gulley (strange looking but effective outside shot)
Donald (Jet) Williams
Ray Schufford (Great shooter that transferred to D-2 for unknown reasons)
Rusty Walker (begged the coaches to put him into the game)
Jay Brown (6-2 walk-on post man)
George King (Outside shooter and good rebounder for his size)
Adam Smith (good post player)
Tony Jones (Very talented 6-5 power forward)
David Miller (Another very talented 6-5 power forward)
Sean Riley (7-footer that passed the ball to Davis Miller)
Tay Officer (Loved to dribble through traps without getting the ball stolen)
Calvin Williams (Not a shooter, not fast but an effective pg)
Ken Mangrum (Very hard-working, serious minded player)
Bryan Lucas ( Underated post man. Great length-of-the-court passer in last second situations. World's worst dribbler.)
Justin Barnett ( After many players had fouled out, I will never forget him dominating the FIU post in an overtime game)
Germaine Green (Proof that there are other ways to get rebounds besides being 6-10, 250 and muscling people out of the way)
Rusty Chiles (Walk-on forced into the starting line-up during JJ's injury-plagued second season)
Ty Thomas (Made some outstanding defensive plays. Had fun.)
Jared Ruffin (Walk-on who gave all-out effort every day. Was a D-1 player on the wrong team)
Harold Stewart (Great athlete who really enjoys playing basketball)

If you're going to talk walk-ons you can not leave out John Franklin...quite guy, great person who just absolutely adored the game. Last time I talked to him he was doing well working as a one-on-one basketball trainer for high school and middle school kids.

John and Rusty were both great guys and the kind of people you want representing this program. Ohh...and Micah...I guess.

[Ibleedgreen]

The best and most exciting NT basketball player I ever watched was without a doubt...Joe Hamilton.

[UNTLifer]

Some non-all-time-greats that for one reason or another won favor with this fan.

Ephriam McDaniel (Eeeeeee!)
Neill Adams (pg of the 69-70 team)
Robert Baker (first long-haired player)
Earl King (Chicago hot dog with extra mustard and relish)
Jeryl Sasser (Uncle of Chris Davis, father of the T Tech Sasser and a fine player in his own right)
David (Von Eric} Adkisson
Ricky Robertson (Walk-on)
Kevie Gulley (strange looking but effective outside shot)
Donald (Jet) Williams
Ray Schufford (Great shooter that transferred to D-2 for unknown reasons)
Rusty Walker (begged the coaches to put him into the game)
Jay Brown (6-2 walk-on post man)
George King (Outside shooter and good rebounder for his size)
Adam Smith (good post player)
Tony Jones (Very talented 6-5 power forward)
David Miller (Another very talented 6-5 power forward)
Sean Riley (7-footer that passed the ball to Davis Miller)
Tay Officer (Loved to dribble through traps without getting the ball stolen)
Calvin Williams (Not a shooter, not fast but an effective pg)
Ken Mangrum (Very hard-working, serious minded player)
Bryan Lucas ( Underated post man. Great length-of-the-court passer in last second situations. World's worst dribbler.)
Justin Barnett ( After many players had fouled out, I will never forget him dominating the FIU post in an overtime game)
Germaine Green (Proof that there are other ways to get rebounds besides being 6-10, 250 and muscling people out of the way)
Rusty Chiles (Walk-on forced into the starting line-up during JJ's injury-plagued second season)
Ty Thomas (Made some outstanding defensive plays. Had fun.)
Jared Ruffin (Walk-on who gave all-out effort every day. Was a D-1 player on the wrong team)
Harold Stewart (Great athlete who really enjoys playing basketball)

Larry Spruill (sp?)

[LittleMeanGreenMan]

Why has no one mentioned Michael Sturns???? He was probably the best "team guy" we have ever had. Or "lunch pale" guy. Not really. He sucked, was a ball hog and was a cancer. I just thought I'd throw his name out there.

[drex]

After talking with Ken Lyons tonight, he was co-player of the year in the Southland his senior season and was the tournament MVP. Later got drafted by the Philadelphia 76ers.

[Carl Sams]

John Manning 1977 - 1980. lead the Nation in scoring in 1979. Ken Lyons was good also, just got drafted by the wrong team who had just came off NBA Championship.

Edited by Carl Sams, 14 October 2012 - 01:11 AM.

[Harry]

John Manning 1977 - 1980. lead the Nation in scoring in 1979. Ken Lyons was good also, just got drafted by the wrong team who had just came off NBA Championship.

Welcome to the board Carl. Thanks for the info.

[NT03]

I wasn't around for most of the players listed , but I hope we see a good group of these guys at the Super Pit this season. Benford has stressed he wants past players connected to the program

Edited by NT03, 14 October 2012 - 09:13 AM.

[Cooley]

John Manning 1977 - 1980. lead the Nation in scoring in 1979. Ken Lyons was good also, just got drafted by the wrong team who had just came off NBA Championship.

Don't think he lead the nation is scoring but I think he was the best shooter (his junior year) dating back to 1975. He was forced to play point his senior year (out of necessity) which took him out of his game. Carl Jones was right there with him in shooting.

Didn't see Joe Hamilton live, as he played a few year before I enrolled, but I did see many of the NTSU games on TV. Can't disagree with him being voted the "Best of All Times". Bobby Iverson and Whitfield as well.