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We beat Oregon St.?  Man, how times have changed.  And I don't just mean that specific to UNT, but the ever growing divide between P5 and G5 in general. 

Edit:  Wow, Oregon St. (and North Texas) were both terrible that year.  Would totally have been on ESPN's Pillow Fight of the Week. 

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2 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

We beat Oregon St.?  Man, how times have changed.  And I don't just mean that specific to UNT, but the ever growing divide between P5 and G5 in general. 

Edit:  Wow, Oregon St. (and North Texas) were both terrible that year.  Would totally have been on ESPN's Pillow Fight of the Week. 

Actually if you look at who UNT played you'd understand why it was a rough year. When you have Missouri, Kansas, LSU, Alabama, Louisville, OU to name a few on your schedule you aren't winning many. Oregan State fired their coach after we beat them. I can't remember a time when UNT had a harder season. If I remember correctly they said we had the 5th hardest schedule in division 1 as far as strength of schedule goes for that season. It was stupid to sacrifice that team for all money games.

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The game was intentionally scheduled the game for an afternoon kickoff...it was September and we just melted the Beavers and won.  By the way, I take no credit for the art on the t-shirt.

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2 hours ago, UNTexas said:

Actually if you look at who UNT played you'd understand why it was a rough year. When you have Missouri, Kansas, LSU, Alabama, Louisville, OU to name a few on your schedule you aren't winning many. Oregan State fired their coach after we beat them. I can't remember a time when UNT had a harder season. If I remember correctly they said we had the 5th hardest schedule in division 1 as far as strength of schedule goes for that season. It was stupid to sacrifice that team for all money games.

People probably look at the name Kansas and think that should have been a cakewalk while Oregon State would have been a tough game for us. The reality is that Oregon State was just awful--on par with what Kansas is today in football, while that Kansas team ended up finishing 9th in the final poll, at a time when the old Big Eight had Nebraska finish #1, Colorado 5th, and Kansas State finish 7th, as well. Believe it or not, KU was the best team we played that year, if you go by the AP poll. Alabama finished #21. Mizzou, Oregon State, Oklahoma, LSU, and Louisville didn't even finish ranked that year.

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8 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

People probably look at the name Kansas and think that should have been a cakewalk while Oregon State would have been a tough game for us. The reality is that Oregon State was just awful--on par with what Kansas is today in football, while that Kansas team ended up finishing 9th in the final poll, at a time when the old Big Eight had Nebraska finish #1, Colorado 5th, and Kansas State finish 7th, as well. Believe it or not, KU was the best team we played that year, if you go by the AP poll. Alabama finished #21. Mizzou, Oregon State, Oklahoma, LSU, and Louisville didn't even finish ranked that year.

Wow!
I had no idea Kansas had any football success prior to Mangino... learn something new every day.

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Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

Wow!
I had no idea Kansas had any football success prior to Mangino... learn something new every day.

Yes, Glen Mason was their coach and he built them up from the ashes. He left them a year later to go to Minnesota, but he was just average up there, as he took over for Jim Wacker, the former TCU Coach. KU made a bad hire, then Mark Mangino built them back up into a top ten team and two years later he was gone, leading to Turner Gill and Charlie Weis basically Benford'ing their program. Who knows, maybe David Beaty will get them back up in a few seasons ahead--that seems to be their football program's MO.

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