Is it time to drop "North Texas" and become UNT?

[HoustonEagle]

The name does not make you.  You make the name.   Southern Cal is not called a directional school because they are an elite institution.  If we improve our academics and athletics we will not be called a directional school as well. 

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2017 by HoustonEagle

[forevereagle]

30 minutes ago, HoustonEagle said:

The name does not make you.  You make the name.   Southern Cal is not called a directional school because they are an elite institution.  If we improve our academics and athletics we will not be called a directional school as well. 

USC is not called a directional school because that is a pejorative term reserved for schools not in the P5. The designation is used against a lot of schools and has absolutely nothing to do with academic performance because those using it have no idea what the academic performance of any of the schools actually is.

[Quoner]

Has anyone under 30 answered yet?

[Tyler Maryak]

15 minutes ago, Quoner said:

Has anyone under 30 answered yet?

Yep

[Ryan Munthe]

When people ask me where I went to school, I say "North Texas."

All of our alums have a degree from North Texas. Not all of them have a degree from UNT

[meangreenlax]

Recent grad here. In the metroplex, UNT is the default. With all the school abbreviations it's easy: UNT, SMU, TCU, UTD... But when I go back to the east coast, North Texas has much more recognition; a lot of people know of someone who lives in or near DFW. 

I mean, I live in the next state over now, and nobody knows what the hell UNT is. Except for those salty Arkansas State fans...

[MeanGreenTexan]

3 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

It'll be interesting to hear the thoughts of some of the younger alums on this matter. I don't understand how going exclusively with UNT somehow eliminates the "directional" issue, since one of the letters in UNT represents a direction. I don't ever hear anyone associated with Southern Methodist University being concerned about their name being too directional. Especially since their name is somewhat inaccurate, since Dallas is located more in the Southwest than in the South. 

Same for Southern Cal. They don't seem to worry about the generic direction in their name.

In both of my examples neither of the schools have the letters of their school on their helmets, as well as not having their generic names. And now, the same goes for North Texas. We have the SOW.

North Texas has always been what we've called ourselves......much like Southern Methodist, and Southern Cal.

I don't see any advantage in changing it.

Those two schools are not very good citations as they both go by the shortened monikers (SMU & USC, respectively).

[Quoner]

27 minutes ago, Tyler Maryak said:

Yep

Noted. Updated question:

Has anyone under 30 besides @meangreenlax who has not worked for the RV AD weighed in?

[Harry]

10 minutes ago, meangreenlax said:

Recent grad here. In the metroplex, UNT is the default. With all the school abbreviations it's easy: UNT, SMU, TCU, UTD... But when I go back to the east coast, North Texas has much more recognition; a lot of people know of someone who lives in or near DFW. 

I mean, I live in the next state over now, and nobody knows what the hell UNT is. Except for those salty Arkansas State fans...

Welcome to the site!

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

UNT sounds cheap to me, I always like saying North Texas. To me it's not like Western Kentucky or Eastern Michigan or something. People know North Texas and how huge it is. Plus if you say UNT fast people think you went to North Carolina. 

[Tyler Maryak]

30 minutes ago, Quoner said:

Noted. Updated question:

Has anyone under 30 besides @meangreenlax who has not worked for the RV AD weighed in?

Lol, still yep.

[Quoner]

4 minutes ago, Tyler Maryak said:

Lol, still yep.

Dang it - it was your wife, wasn't it? It's not a criticism either - just more you get used to hearing something presented to you long enough and it sounds right. 

[Moobs]

Maybe I just like what I know... or maybe RV was right???

NOPE!!  I just like what I know.  Damn you RV!!!!

[97and03]

North Texas, duh.

 

[3XL]

Just do what the big boys do...use the best logo or brand for certain situations. Two P5 schools that are similar to us in name are:

1. University of North Carolina: (UNC), (North Carolina), ram & interlocked NC for spirit/sports branding

2. University of Southern California: (USC), (Southern Cal), Trojan & interlocked SC for spirit/sports branding 

University of North Texas: (UNT), (North Texas), eagle & interlocked NT for spirit/sports branding

 

 

[Quoner]

20 minutes ago, Moobs said:

Maybe I just like what I know... or maybe RV was right???

NOPE!!  I just like what I know.  Damn you RV!!!!

We call that paradox Schrodinger's Noid. 

[emmitt01]

"North Texas" has been a part of who we are since Joshua Crittendon Chilton was the first President of North Texas Normal College and Teacher Training Institute back in 1890.  

Regardless of what year you graduated, North Texas is on your degree. 

We are not comparable to an SMU or a USC because their current abbreviations have always stood for the full name of the school.  UNT does not abbreviate the school that every generation of our alumni attended.  Tradition is about shared history, ties that bind us all together...not about whether people from outside our family gravitate towards our moniker.  

We are who we tell people we are.  If they don't recognize North Texas it's because we have done a piss poor job of championing our brand.  That isn't going to change because we give them the mental shortcut of memorizing three letters.

[greenjoe]

UUUUUUUUUUUUniversity OOOOOOOOOOOOf  NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNorth TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTexas

 

No.  I like the good ole North Texas

 

GO MEAN GREEN

Edited March 31, 2017 by greenjoe

[DeepGreen]

2 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

UUUUUUUUUUUUniversity OOOOOOOOOOOOf  NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNorth TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTexas

Greenjoe, you could shorten that to University of North Texas.  LOL!

Edited March 31, 2017 by DeepGreen

[greenjoe]

Thank.  I'll just stay with NT.

[letsgiveacheer]

"It makes no sense to see "North Texas" on espn scoreboard"

Ironically, we are typically NTU on espn's rolling scoreboard. 

Edited March 31, 2017 by letsgiveacheer

[Travis]

I like both. And both should be used. Simple fact is that we are UNT and North Texas. One doesn't hurt the other. 

[UNT 04]

Part of the problem was we had North Texas on the helmet and went by North Texas. Now that we have SOW on our helmet not such a big deal

[CMJ]

4 minutes ago, Travis said:

I like both. And both should be used. Simple fact is that we are UNT and North Texas. One doesn't hurt the other. 

USC uses both.

 

A whole lot of people refer to USC as Southern Cal here.  Outside of LA I know it's rare, but it's about 50/50 here.

[wizade]

I always say North Texas... especially outside this area.