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I had the privilege of riding on a plane to Denver and a shuttle to a hotel with Robert Finklea!!! Wow lots of great memories he and I talked about NT football for hours. He is adamant the UT Receiver was out of bounds on that catch. Still got fired up when we talked about it. I'll try and get some fun stories out of him. Anyway, carry on.

@Ben Gooding The issue he is trying to point out is that Seth and company are fighting an uphill battle. Our (UNT) perception is still not well thought in the High School ranks. High School coaches have seen North Texas put "new coats of paint" on a crappy foundation for years and years. Wren, Seth, and company are finally working to repair the foundation of North Texas sports. As the saying goes, "Preception is Reality." It's not going to happen overnight. And yes, he does have a hard sell whether or not we want to admit it. That being said, his (Jaxon's) comments show that we need to get the word out to the High School coaches and "help" them understand via whatever medium necessary what is happening up in Denton. We need to shape their perception to our reality!

UT receiver WAS out of bounds. Truth!

I am reading the new DCTF magazine that came out. Both of our current commits are listed in the state's Top 30 for their position. But Seth can't recruit or identify talent.

I understand that NT athletics has running water and indoor plumbing now.

Love his comments about the campus and program. GMG24, if we don't lock him up then you are dead to me! :)

http://sportstao.com/ep-788-ryan-peckchris-baretta-north-texas-athletics/ Good little 20 minute listen.

I don't know about a banner for a piss wall but I wouldn't be opposed to flying a banner over Ford Stadium again.

Where I was at..even UT fans were laughing at the play. Everyone knew. If I remember Dale Hansen kept using that film clip for along time when talking about UT football. NTSU beat UT.....period.

Fouts had waterless urinals.

Unless you have the pictures........ :)

Incorporate the battle flag onto the shoulder pad area or sleeve.

DRC: http://beta.dentonrc.com/sports/mean-green/2017/06/23/colony-safety-jaxon-gibbs-impressed-unt-visit

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Yep...did!

Can I please ask you do one. If he elects to go to UNT or some place else. Could he please say what were the good/bad things about the way he was recruited by UNT. If it's simple things from more edits to more interaction, or even more better access, whatever. I have no idea how often/if at all the coaches get any type of input into why a recruit picks or passes over UNT. But Jaxson is a kid that will see a lot of different things out there and it could help UNT in the future. (Hopefully my late night rambling makes sense) Is this a new UNI?

Laces out! Oh wait. That was Ray Finkle. At any rate, he has good reason (and evidence) to be adamant.

Nah, Littrell is just a drooling, socially awkward redneck that can't recruit.

Ok--this is simply not true. You cannot tell me with a straight face that people in DFW care less about Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, New Mexico, Colorado State, Air Force, etc..than they do F_U, ODU, Charlotte, UAB, MUTS, WKU, Marshall, or USM. And if we are going to add basketball to the mix, then this isn't up for debate. I believe that IF the MWC wants back in Texas--and I believe they do--they will just wait out the demise of the Big XII and pick off at least two of the leftovers, most likely TCU and Baylor, but possibly Texas Tech, as well. That said, if the Big XII could remain as a conference, and stayed with the members who couldn't move up, that could lead to them having to look at some of us in the lower G5s to move over. They'd love UH and SMU first, but they may not want to move over there. So, then they'd go back to their old pal, UTEP, as well as Rice, and then ask about the idea of a travel partner(s). Ideally, we would be included, but we won't be ahead of UTSA, just because of the market, the city being a travel destination, and having bowl connections to the city. If we got included with Rice, UTSA, and UTEP, that would make the MWC with 16 teams, which seems to be the number everyone keeps pegging as the cap for conference membership. Include us with UNM, Colorado State, Wyoming, and AFA. That means we would never be more than an hour's difference in later kickoffs for intra-divisional games. Right now, when we play Eastern CUSA games, its just the exact opposite, being an hour behind. This ain't 1995 anymore and we are depending on the paper for our sports stories. This crazy internet thing has caught on fairly strongly in most of the country. For the Western Division, they get the old WAC, plus SDSU in their lineup Boise, Hawaii, SDSU, SJSU, Fresno State, UNLV, Nevada, and Utah State. Hell, make the league rules that nobody can kickoff later than 7:00 their body time and no earlier than 2:00 their body time. IOW, no CST kickoffs before 2pm for traveling Pac teams and no PST kickoffs after 5:00 for traveling Central teams. Trust me, if the TV money could be made and the extra market delivery can help the other members, they'll do it. Again, TCU did this and it led to bigger success for them than they had seen in FW in probably 50+ years. They have shown us the way if we could actually get the opportunity. If we don't get it, than sobeit, we are still in the best conference situation we have ever had currently. But to dream bigger is to look outside of the bubble and see that a path could be blazed to a higher place amongst the college sports world. But it takes courage, commitment, and attention--things we have never shown we have for athletics for any decent amount of time.

Oh heck no. That has to come out of Ernie's pocket. And, most times, when you join a new conference, you don't get a share of the pie until after a probationary year. It would be quite the investment to leave CUSA for any other conference.

UNT needs to keep improving facilities and improve the winning %. Doing that will make UNT acctractive to other conferences that are looking to expand. Being in a Top 5/10 market in th nation is huge for UNT, with it being the largest school in DFW as well. Being a Tier 1 also will help in terms of being attractive to conferences and academics.

DRC: Story coming shortly http://beta.dentonrc.com/sports/mean-green/2017/06/19/unt-unveils-upgraded-ernie-kuehne-basketball-practice-facility

I would love the mwc. It is a move in the right direction and way better than sitting idle and doing nothing.

Kason Martin and Anthony Johnson were both listed. They have them in alphabetical order, not sure of the actual number. But I know during years past, we haven't had many players in the rankings.

Appears to be for next year

Also freshmen of year. Still not clear whether if he is committing for this year or after his second year at junior college.

Their roster information is a joke. I think they had a basketball player listed as a DB.

After the departure of the beloved pee wall. That was the last "lipstick on a pig" along with a fresh coat of paint generously donated by Pittsburgh paints during the Todd Dodge years. Fouts Field bathrooms pre-2007.....

To add some updates with the spreadsheet now that the roster has been updated: - Devlin Isadore and Devin O'Hara are both listed as being on scholarship but neither are. - Conversely, Quinn Shanbour is on scholarship. He is also a redshirt junior after receiving another year of eligibility. - Terrance Johnson and Julius Combes are both listed as being on scholarship but neither are. - William Lemasters is listed as being on scholarship but he is not. At least to my knowledge. - Kway Hill is no longer on the roster. I'm sure there are plenty of walkons no longer on the roster, and new ones we need to add, but I didn't go through them all. - Wylie Reinhardt had to give up football due to injury - Kel Straubmueller is listed as being on scholarship but I am not aware of when that move to put him on scholarship happened if it did. Does anyone know if/when that was announced? - The fall-enrollee signees have been added. This includes junior DB Kemon Hall who apparently will be a blueshirt, meaning he will be a scholarship player this season. - Grad transfer OL Riley Mayfield joins the team on scholarship as a redshirt junior - JUCO transfer OL Sosaia Mose joins the team on scholarship as a redshirt sophomore - We announced 16 high-school signees on signing day. One is already on the spreadsheet in early-enrollee Cade Pearson. The other 15 have been added as well. They are: DB Cameron Johnson DL Tony Krasniqi DL Dion Novil LB Kody Fulp LB Chris Thornton OL Jacob Brammer OL Manase Mose OL Dakoda Newman OL Brian Parish RB Evan Johnson RB Tre Siggers S Tyreke Davis S Makyle Sanders WR Jaelon Darden WR Greg White - Also, freshman DB Jordan Roberts and freshman OL Brendon Weatherspoon are both reportedly joining the team as blueshirts as well. So they should be listed as scholarship players as well. By my count we have 73 scholarship players this year. 18 of which are offensive linemen. That means 1/4 of our scholarship players are offensive linemen.

If UNT were to move into a bigger conference such as Pac12 or SEC, or even the MWest then you would see a growth in the DFW market. DFW is a huge market that would be appealing to these conferences. The only problem is that UNT isn't appealing in terms of sports. UNT has a huge alumni base in DFW, and is one of the largest schools in the nation as well. The Teir 1 education is impressive to conferences because it's another accomplishment for them. DFW is also a top 5 media market and a market that is endless growing and fertile with recruits. All reasons for conferences to be interested. Investment in facilities are a major improvement and will make the AD department attractive to other conferences, and going to bowls regularly. UNT has a lot going for it, now is the the time to invest and dream big!

That's the ONLY thing I will give them.

Nah, just "The Band"

So, is he eligible to play the 17-18 season or will he be in the next class? Appears to be this class, so who is gone now?

This is huge. This is how we are perceived outside of our little fan bubble. Think about all the recruits we miss on because they won't even consider visiting our campus because of some preconceived notion. Examples like this show just how important getting a good showing at our camp can be. Get them in to see that we don't play at Fouts anymore like some of their coaches may still believe.

Idk, they've done a good job cleaning it up. The people who bought it (Campus bookstore) cleaned it up. The problem is now that it's pretty useless since they have a tiny art section and essentially just use it as a store front for Campus Bookstore.

cUSA = Rice, UTEP, SMiss, Marshall, LTech, Odom (none of these are great but they're at least not an embarrassment to be associated with). Belt = Monroe, Troy The worst of cUSA were also in the Belt

Littrell put Shanbour on scholarship since he has been here long enough not to count against the 2017 class.

If you go to a sports bar in Addison or Las Colinas, you'd find it IS true. Granted, Boise is better known. But La Tech, UTEP, UTSA and even Rice have more demand than any MWC team except Boise. Depending on who Boise is playing, that some times includes Boise. As for going to 16 teams, members of Mountain Division are the ones who created the MWC because their fans HATED the idea of a 16 team league. These are the same fans driving the MWC to consider giving up ESPN and Fox to avoid mid-week games. As far as Mountain and Wester games verse Eastern games, the Rangers, Mavericks and Stars have all very publicly complained about later starts hurting their coverage even in the age of the internet. While fewer people open the physical paper, the online editions have grown dramatically. And even in the age of the internet, 7pm Western time is still three hours later than 7pm Eastern time. There's a reason viewership for Western and Mountain evening games in the Central time zone is a fraction of that of Eastern and Central games. As for limiting the times of the start, again, they will NOT make this deal again. Period. I know CSU, Wyoming and New Mexico were very vocal about never doing that again. AS for TCU increasing their crowd, that have more to do with TCU actively working to get their core fans to come out no matter whom they are playing. They stress the opponent doesn't matter, come see the Frogs. They started that campaign while in CUSA and continued it through to today. Yes, SMU has the large financial resources. But back after the announcement of UTEP joining CUSA there was an article about the decision. Banowsky was very clear that when CUSA compared the facilities and salaries of NT, La Tech and UTEP that UTEP was far ahead of either of us. And that was what convinced the member schools including those in the East to accept UTEP over La Tech and us. I don't know where the article is, but Banowsky was very clear on the reason. Yes, there was a master plan at NT, but no visible money to fund it. And no will at the time to get the money. SMU didn't block us from joining CUSA in 2005, bad decisions by our administration did. SMU was happy about the result, but they didn't block us.

lol I am working. I want him to go wherever he feels best but I have been putting UNT in his ear. He was on campus today for an unofficial. I haven't asked how it went because I am not sure when he will be done.

I think the Mountain division would be the obvious spot. And I bet any home game we have will start at our normal time. Away games may be different, but you're talking about 1-hour difference in most cases. The late games would be the crossover AWAY games with the West division (maybe 1 or 2/yr, like we have with CUSA East teams now). Game times really are not that big of a deal if you're playing better, more-recognized opponents.

UNT is lucky to be where they are after RV and Dan. Money seems to have loosened up for athletes but continued facilities improvement and winning is what it will take to keep moving up. After departure of CUSA schools to AAC the move to CUSA was just luke warm....course getting ripped by Portland St was a killer for the whole athletic dept. so guess better be happy with what we got now.

I was in there earlier this month. It's kinda just..empty.

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I'm a bit worried we have no formal announcement from gridiron account of commitment... if we piss away relationship at a top txhsfb program I'll be pissed.

"The Showcase of University Spirit and Pride" was already being used as part of the intro to the halftime show when I was in the band in 1980. It probably was started by Dr. Winslow when he took over the band. I suppose it could be considered a motto.

Brett's job is to report the news. Not make UNT football look as good as possible. I believe you're looking for this link: http://www.meangreensports.com/

It's back up.