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You see, in a lot of ways Tony Mitchell is just a younger version of Josh Smith. Atlanta fans certainly hope the rookie is able to slide in and out of the two forward slots like J-Smoove has over the past few years. But at the same time, they also need Tony to be disciplined enough to know that 22-foot jumpers from the corner aren’t a great look for him. Smith wasn’t able to do that; now he’s likely elsewhere. If Tony can stay in his lane, Atlanta fans will never forget another date—June 27, 2013, the day the Hawks made Mitchell the 18th pick of the NBA Draft. http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2013/06/tony-mitchell-no-18-mock-draft/ Might be an interesting fit to allow him some backup mins at both PF & SF. The Hawks would be best served moving Horford to PF instead of C, but Mitchell's potential to get mins at both forward spots might be attractive as they may not find a full-time C and be forced to move Horford there more than they'd like.

It is. Just better TV, more money, better bowls, more regional opponents, greater press coverage, higher public perception, ... Other than that and a few more things, it's the same. It's still not the SEC so it must be terrible and we must demand to change conferences.

Someone tell me again how CUSA is just Sun Belt 2.0

This has the making of a wonderful new meme.

If you don't mind spending a few extra dollars try the Commanders Palace restaurant in The Garden District. Lunch is certainly more affordable than dinner and the food is just as good. Right across the street is one of their above ground cemeteries. It is sort of interesting to wander around and see what is there before you eat. The most obvious place to eat in New Orleans is Café Du Monde just off Jackson Square for their beignets. The Court of Two Sisters in the French Quarter is good and if money is really no object do Breakfast At Brennan's.....but take your checkbook to that one.

--- I too was moved by these personal comments... It made these gravesites really feel like people lost and a lot more than another soldier. Both cemeteries are very impressive but different.. I have been a lot places ( somewhat due to my wife being a foreign language teacher) but never to Pearl Harbor (yet). International travel really changes your view on things if you go as more than a tourist. I have had tour guides point out a big difference in tourists and travelers... and there is.. one goes to only see and the other mixes with the locals and learns about them, their views and their lifestyles. . .

Sigh. Ya try to be upbeat about the upcoming season, then a few posters over here seem to take that energy away with their Mean Green will or could be a train wreck posts. Guess the best thing to avoid depressing attitudes is to stay away.

Somebody knows his months of the year!

I'm not sure I understand why people are freaking out over Idaho. This team performs quite well at home. We usually beat who we should beat at home.

KSU last year was best road game against a ranked team I have seen in decades, but I have to opt for Tulane because of venue and we have a shot at a win there.

I graduated in 2008 but require 3 classes to sit for the CPA exam which I am in the process of completing. I paid over $400 in fees to take one 3 hour class last semester. I say raise th fees. PS - my employer reimburses me for tuition and book expenses but not fees.

Tolstoy's version is WAY better.

Jeremy was at our camp in San Antonio & he was all of 6'6" with good foot action on the different set ups Chico made them run. He was pretty slim but had good speed going through the drills. He looked to throw a long ball that was catchable by several different receivers. The qb from cedar park was here too (he looked 6'5" or so). Chico said that he was interested in three of the qb's at the clinic here. 20+ were in his group of qbs. They expected 60 to 80 but had about 180 players at the event. The coaches were real impressed with the turnout. The coaches had the guys loud & running at full speed or they made them re-do the drills. Since it was our first clinic there, they said that probably will have 200+ next year (better than the Dallas turnout). Several flew in from El Paso & valley area. Dan had them stand up at the introduction of the coaches at the start of the clinic. Real Big O/D lineman but no keepers at least in the D liners. Steel HS defense line was in Mike's group & looked the most athletic. Several tall receivers but I didn't watch that group. Some made good long ball catches though when they paired them with the qbs at the end of the camp.

There's a JohnnyFace ready for certain kinds of posts in this thread. Well played, sir. Well played.

I have been to this cemetery in Normandy...the inscriptions on the headstones are truly moving...a difference in how it is done in the American Cemetary, but such a moving experience I have never had before or after this visit. I have some sand from Omaha Beach. It is a trip I will never ever forget....nor will I forget being on the USS Missouri and standing exactly where MacArthur accepted the surrender of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor that officially ended WW II. Everyone really should visit both these places at least once in their lifetimes. I feel blessed to have been able to walk where so many heros walked before.

NT switching to B&N has everything to do with the Union remodel/expansion. I expect once the bookstore remodel is finished it is going to be an awesome place to shop.

Got no problem paying an extra 10 % on season tickets, but you don't raise prices when you can't fill a stadium. Are you seriously asking why athletics needs more $? Have you looked at where we rank budget wise in CUSA, much less the overall NCAA? If you like losing, by all means, keep the budget where it is

so was Bill Russell.

Yale has a Barnes and Noble bookstore. They're huge, luxurious and have tons of apparel. This is FANTASTIC for the university. Voertmann's being sold is rather worrisome, although the store looks like crap as of recent. Hope that it doesn't go away. I love that place.

So Voertman's, going, going gone. UNT Bookstore about to become a member of those stalwarts of business, Barnes & Noble. Great things are afoot in Denton!

She'd better be AWESOME, We waited almost a month.

You know we just only recently built a new football stadium during the worst economic time in the USA since the Great Depression that would most likely cost a minimum of $100,000,000 to $125,000,000 to build today. Thanks UNT students and private financeers for that. No, it's not enough compared to others, but those other school's leaders have not asked their respective student bodies to build and significantly fund a new college football stadium from scratch, either. Isn't it easy to believe this UNT BOR's will not leave this UNT athletic dept. at the train station and will vote for graduated student fee increases the next however long it takes to catch up and most likely pass the ones we know this needs to happen with? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out, but who we get as our new main campus president will be very important for the continued upgrading of a program that has been 25 years behind in quality athletic venues across the board save the Super Pit. GMG!

1. You must've not been around to experience Beans when that little stairway across from the bar led to another room. Beans used to be roughly twice it's current size with another interior bar and restrooms ect... I like their new patio, but beans is still a shadow of its former self. 2. The bars you listed are fine and dandy... But there is still nothing in Denton that touches Lous if you like watching sports while you drink.

This TV thing for the Mean Green football program is exceeding most all our expectations and much sooner than I thought it would happen! Anyone missing the Sun Belt now? This is just more for Coach McCarney and staff to build on! GMG !

Major duck butter going on for that ball state game... But more games on TV is awesome!

With all the realignment that has happened in the past couple of years, I think North Texas and the schools that have moved to CUSA are going to benefit the most. The reason why the schools in the Sun Belt were not known was simply because of exposure, and now we have that. If the CUSA can pull off a couple of big upsets this year, then I think we will quickly gain the respect and can position ourselves as an equal to the MWC and AAC. The perception gap is narrowing. More importantly, I hope the players and coaches are working harder than ever to start the inaugural CUSA season with a bang and make their mark on North Texas' history. The stage is set, how will we perform?

Hmm... alright. Breakfast: Lunch: -or- This exact spot at Mellow Mushroom for their recent addition of a 3-6 Happy Hour, where I load up on half-priced wings and beer. Dinner: Drinks: Where I start my night:: Where I finish it:: And really, this town is going through a bit of a restaurant renaissance, save for the abomination of a Subway that will open soon on the Square. Damn them and their inappropriate encroachment of our hollowed ground retail space.

.. Several reasons.. 1. We educate everyone...and to a rather high age... In some countries after a certain "grade" many go into "trade" schools. I'm guessing many of those really aren't taking the tests ... which affects scores and gives a false comparison.. 2. My high school class scored very high on standardized tests. Of course the age to drop out was lower then and a lot of them did. Leaving a group that did well in school. We were pre Viet Nam.... and after that scores dropped... partly because a lot less guys were dropping out.... they didn't like the idea of being sent to a rice paddy... which is what happened to most of them eventually. Later the compulsory age was raised which would drop scores because those that were doing poorly in school were still there instead of gone. You need to look HOW a country runs their schools to really compare. Part two of that is labor laws here... the young can no longer get jobs they once could ... so.... with no real jobs with decent pay available... they stay in school..... Not true in many countries.... which removes of the disinterested and poor student which would have dropped test scores.... 3. So many students that I have had in the past especially in Texas here go home and speak Spanish.. Often their parents are NOT that well educated either even in Spanish. That doesn't happen in Iowa, Idaho, and many other places ... that will drop scores. that isn't much of a problem in foreign countries... they tend to speak the language and are often educated and multi-lingual.. I have been in Europe many times and most all can speak/write multiple languages. The education backgournd of parents is a big factor in achievement... Don't compare a border town achievement scores with Frisco/Plano for example for that reason.. ........ that is the big reason the state testing is so flawed especially in evaluating teachers... the best teacher can often have lower scores... [ all about who is walking in the door to be taught ] My parents were unable to finish high school (depression) my kids had college educated parents .. and now have computer and law degrees ...makes a difference. 4.. Last........ I am disgusted with schools that pressure teachers to pass kids when they don't deserve it......... When you expect nothing.... you get nothing ***. It spills over when a kid with a 74 grade sees a kid that did about nothing get a 70 ... guess what.... he gets it.... don't need to work to pass .... and he won't. ... and it gets worse every semester. ..... part two of that is you don't want 15 year olds in a class with 12 year olds..... and you don't want the 15 year walking the streets (can't get a job) and breaking into houses. Problem..... find an answer for those kids... and trade classes etc. are not as cheap as teaching Chaucer. *** applies to parents too ... too many expect nothing from their kid and don't have the courage to say NO or be a parent... and therefore get about nothing from them.... they just blame the schools. ...that is easier......... Check out most Asian kids.... their parents pressure them to learn... and they do. I teach stats... people need to consider how those scores were achieved and the population... Strange that basketball players have a larger height than the general population... They are just people like the rest of us. ..

My girlfriend has taught both chemistry and algebra (now only chemistry) at the HS level. She could fill books about what is wrong with the education system - trust me I hear about it everyday.

I don't think anyone wants to live in a poorly educated country. At the same time, how can anyone explain why we can spend so much money on education and not have better results when compared to other countries that spend less than the US and rank higher than US students?

GL2Greatness, please take this question as a most sincere one with nothing between the lines or any kind of attempt at a "gotcha" scenario but.............what could possibly happen to the University of North Texas that would give you the most joy and satisfaction since most all your posts are like reading chapter after chapter of what might be your latest literary entry (if you were an author, that is) which could easily be titled: "Why I Am Having Such Joy Watching Anyone From The UNT Constituency Squirm In Their Batan Death March?" Most of us on GMG.com square up with each other whether on this forum, a private message or even an occassional phone conversation with our most of the time agreeing to disagree (and sometimes even actually agree) but still parting as friends post communications or phone conversation....but your non-stop dark agenda on the subject of UNT and/or UNT athletics is quite the mystery. I know to answer the above question with a full disclosure would take much of your mystery away from this forum and thus your having no real reasons to stay, but surprise us all and give us even just 1 subtle hint as to why you hate UNT so much. To quote the great Ross Perot...."we're all ears."

Because we absolutely CANNOT afford to lose that game, for numerous reasons that go beyond even this football season. Because we had a difficult time at home against Texas Southern last year before breaking it open at the end. Because we have numerous question marks, from D-line to QB to WR. Because (for me, anyway) it seems like anything that can go wrong with this program does go wrong. Every time.

If we lose to Idaho,the season is over before it begins.

So after reading an apparent TSU-SM alum's manifesto above, is it time for North Texas to raid the Home of Aquarena Spring's favorite campus of their more talented administrative staff at the top and endowment coffer fundraisers, too? And that because during our 30 year (give/take) sleep they seemed to have put their "teacher's college" status behind them much more effectively than others and even as a non-Texas university system school? They are raising funds for one campus while, uh, we seem to be doing so for campuses in Dallas, Fort Worth and then...............Denton. God only knows how many times their present TSU-SM Bobcat HFC, ie, one Dennis Francione has wanted the same job at North Texas even over, uh, TSU-SM back (the first time) when we chose to hire Dennis Parker instead and with Coach Fran even getting turned down by UNT at least twice last count) so might we get lucky with some of their top administrators in San Marcos, too, like for starters.... ........just who is the TSU-SM president who seems to have led them past UNT in some key areas even as what the most recent figures suggest are their annual research monies, too? (Coach Fran? For certain I'm still fine with our present HFC in Denton as I think he is the one who takes UNT out of the NCAA wilderness and also one who will not dummy down our expections or re-define what a successful NCAA FBS level football program truly is and I defer to a recent Top 25 ranked football program located in Ruston, LA.). While North Texas Slept (not a Pulitzer Prize winning book yet unfortunately written by all of us with UNT ties) with seemed non-stop praise from a few on this forum for what would not be acceptable performers and performances even in the town of San Marcos, Texas)..............yet that period of sleeping by our school in what is obviously too many under-performances in most important areas of a school's true barometer of success. And for our school has it not been a most expensive venture while others seemed to have passed us by if we can (still) believe some of the figures we read and some of those from our best Google researching? Yet it seems that the numbers we now read and a Texas public university's endowment coffer totals still never lie. We have to have at least $400 million of an endowment (as I understand the most recent list of criteria) to pass what a few of you have said would be the final barrier for UNT to become a Tier 1 Research outfit and still..... we are even behind TSU-SM in that department, too. AGAIN....who North Texas hires as its new main campus president will be important in more ways than one. Our school at this point in its history cannot afford to hire a "this makes no sense or cents" hire during this hiring cycle. SO....DO I HEAR AN AMEN? Of course not because this poster like a few others never follows the usual UNT company line of what seems to be unadulterated bullshit too many times. We can take a steaming bowl of dog caca on this board at times and turn it into banana pudding so we all eventually have to ask this question to ourselves as in: WHO THE HELL DO WE THINK WE ARE KIDDING? My blood sugars down so time to take the meds!

You realize Scott Hall threw zero TD's in that Baylor game right? Mean Green D and a punishing running game with something like 300+ yards rushing is what destroyed Baylor - not Scott Hall. Nice guy. Glad he played for us but vastly overrated as a QB by many on this board. DT in the huddle of those Dickey teams would have had similar success. Our D is what led us to 4 conf championships. Our D kept us in games against some fierce competition but our lack of QB and anything resembling serious speed as a WR during those bowl years kept us from pulling any upset against the UT's of the world. Go ahead and start the negs.

All about Mac is awesome.

Yes I would. Powers was perfectly capable, but when he wasn't blocking he only seemed to get an ocassional pass outside where the corners could get at him. A tightend's bread and butter is a matchup against a slower/smaller LB over the middle. Power's talents were wasted IMO. Rick

Most schools sign several impact players each season. We got Nunn.

Someone who will only spend one year on the roster before "deciding" to transfer elsewhere.

Are you crazy!? Of course Walton will get playing time! That guy was the difference between a 20 win team and a 12 win team.

this post is incorrect 1. what the students passed does matter 2. the language of the law says that the athletics fee can be raised a single time to a max of 10% and that is it period 3. UT and Texas Tech and A&M had nothing to do with inserting anything it was put in place by Dan Patrick that represents north west Harris County and has a BA degree from the university of Maryland Baltimore so he is hardly a UT or TAMU or Texas Tech homer 4. the language for Texas State is NOT the same and also the language in the "answer" part of this thread is not the actual bill it is the analysis of the bill and it is actually an analysis of the bill that was not the bill that was enrolled so it is missing parts of the bill that were actually voted in place and approved by the legislature here is the north Texas bill...the actual bill as it was enrolled not an analysis of a form of the bill before final amendment and enrollment http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/SB00473F.HTM here is the Texas State bill http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00161F.htm key differences the Texas State bill allows yearly unlimited raises of 5% if approved by the student government Sec. 54.5382. part D. key similarities.....the Texas State bill just like the north Texas bill allows for a greater increase in the fee if a student vote was taken.....and that is exactly what happened at Texas State........in 2008 Texas state followed the language of the above bill and held a student vote that allowed the fee to be increased to 10 dollars AND for yearly 2 dollar increases for the next 5 years to a total of $20 dollars http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2008/02/referendumpasses021308.html there is one key difference with the Texas State bill as well it allows the fee to be in place with or without bond debt in place so the Texas State fee has no period when it might end 5. as I read the law the university has a 5 year window to issue bonds ad after that no new bonds will count towards keeping the fee alive only "refunding" or rebonding of the existing bonds that were issued in that 5 year period would count towards keeping the fee alive.....I might be wrong on this interpretation, but I am fairly sure I am not and the reason I am failry sure of that is because that language was put in for a reason and that reason was to make sure the fee dies at some point......if there was no intent for the fee to dir at some point there would be no language like that in the bill the bill would simply not have any clause like that (similar to the Texas state bill linked above that has no clause for issuing bonds within a time period or the fee ending when those bonds were paid off or bonds used to "refund" those bonds were paid off) even if a "refunding" does take place binds are not like a home loan where you have equity to borrow against if an asset increases in value or if you have paid enough to have equity.....when you "refund" bonds you "refund" for the amount owed on the existing bonds if you desire more money than that you have to issue new bonds and yes you can pay off the old bonds with some of the money from a new bond issue, but you have issued new bonds you have not "refunded" existing bonds and the way I am reading that language in the bill only bonds issued in a 5 year window count as bonds able to keep the fee alive and any NEW bonds issued after that do not count and "refunding" of existing bonds would count to extend the fee, but eventually because you pay down the bonds over time and "refund" less and less each time the bonds issued in that 5 year window and the ones issued to "refund" those bonds will go to zero and the fee will end http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/amendments/pdf/SB00473S3F1.PDF if anyone wanted actual clarity of the intent of that amendment I am sure they could email Dan Patrick and ask him what the intent of that is and the true meaning....I read it to mean that only bonds issued in a 5 year period (and bonds that refund those existing bonds issued in that 5 year window) keep the fee alive and that NEW bonds issued after that 5 year window do not serve to keep the fee alive and again when you "refund" existing bonds you do not add new money you refund for a lesser and lesser amount each time because you have been paying on those bonds and eventually it goes to zero IMO if the intent was to have an athletics fee that stayed in place forever the language in the amendment above never would have been put in place like the bill for Texas State that has no such language this is exactly what has been stated over and over....the fee can be increased a single time up to 10% unless approved by the students.....so without a vote of the students the fee for athletics can be increased to a max of $11 dollars and any higher than that requires a new vote of the students and it cannot be raised any higher than $11 dollars ever without a vote of the students with the current legislation in place again the key difference is that the administration at Texas State had used their available 5% YEARLY increases and the HAD A STUDENT VOTE to increase it more......while the administration at north Texas has not used their SINGLE ONE TIME 10% (NOT YEARLY) raise nor have they seen fit to have a student vote to allow it to be raised to more than $11 dollars so why would anyone really be concerned about the fee being able to be raised 10%, 20%, 50% or even 1000% (it can be raised ONE TIME FOR 10%) when the administration for over 2 years has declined to raise the fee the single allowed 10% without a student vote.....that makes no sense......"well we can only raise the fee 1 time for a dollar and that is not good enough so lets just do nothing because really we want to raise the fee 1000%, but all we can do is raise it a dollar so we will just do nothing".......ok well actually maybe that does make sense to an idiot like lee jackson, but not to anyone else actually UT and TAMU have a relatively low out of state enrollment http://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/percentage-of-out-of-state-students-at-public-universities/360/ the site above has TAMU at 1% lower than the out of state enrollment for north Texas and 2% below Texas Tech and UT the same as Texas Tech and only 1% above north Texas and this Daily Texan article has the incoming freshman class for UT at 8.3% out of state students (vs the above numbers that are total student body) http://dailytexanonline.com/opinion/2013/02/20/top-ten-shuts-out-out-of-state-students and the above article from 2013 also points out that peer universities for UT like tOSU, Wisconsin, and Penn State have significantly higher out of state enrollments so while it is true that students like UT and TAMU because they can get a very high quality of education for a low cost even as out of state students UT and TAMU are not enrolling a large number of out of state students as a % of overall enrollment nor are they enrolling near the % of out of state students that peer public universities enroll and in Texas all universities are baseline funded the same even UT and TAMU and PVAMU.....they are all funded using the exact same two formulas for "infrastructure" and for "instruction and operations"....every university including TAMU, UT Austin and PVAMU are funded with those formulas (the only difference for UT Austin, TAMU, and PVAMU is "excellence funding) each formula starts out using enrollment as a basis and then they have types of degrees and graduate and undergraduate enrollment as scales in the I&O Formula liberal arts is normalized to "1" and it scales up from there to sciences, business, engineering and then pharmacy or vet programs and the like and then there are parts of the formula for graduate VS undergrad enrollment......because liberal arts degrees have less expensive hiring cost for professors VS engineering or pharmacy of Vet programs it is similar with the Infrastructure formula only "space utilization" is also accounted for, but again it is based on the idea that liberal arts do not require large expensive labs that are "single use" in nature and engineering and the like require much more technology and space to accommodate that technology and graduate students especially in the hard and physical sciences and engineering (vs the soft and social sciences) will be working in specific use labs so the formulas are weighted in terms of funding for the various degrees offered and the level of students enrolled as for PUF VS non-PUF participating universities the only difference there (again besides UT Austin, TAMU and PVAMU) is that PUF participating universities (including the three singled out) get their formula infrastructure funding from the PUF instead of getting it from general state revenues while non-PUF participating universities get their infrastructure formula funding from general state revenues......ALL universities in Texas get their I&O funding from general state revenues and ALL state universities in Texas use the same formulas for both infrastructure and I&O with UT Austin, TAMU, and PVAMU AFTER all the PUF participating universities have their formula infrastructure funding covered from the AUF (the portion of the PUF that is paid out each year for universities to spend) the remaining money left over in the AUF is split 2/3 UT Austin and 1/3 TAMU/PVAMU for "excellence" and those dollars are hardly the lions share of the higher education dollars in Texas and they are not even the lions share of overall state funding for any of those three universities much less the lions share of those three university's budgets also in Texas there is "small university" funding as wellt hat goes to Sul Ross, north Texas dallas, UH Downtown UT Tyler and some others because the cost of administering a university is relatively "fixed" for smaller schools VS larger schools (economies of scale) so a smaller university still has a president and computer systems and a library and on and on for 5,000 students VS 50,000 students and as the university gets larger the cost of that fixed (or relatively fixed) overhead declines on a per student basis so UT Austin, TAMU and PVAMU do get additional funding over and above formula funding for "excellence" that is the remainder of the AUF (spent portion of the PUF) after the infrastructure formula funding is covered for all the PUF participating universities is covered, but it is far far far from the lions share of state higher ed dollars and it is not even close to the lions share of state funding or budgets for those universities and all the other universities in Texas are funded equally after that....so there really is no politics involved as an aside here is the 2012 total state funding for each university in Texas ranked on a per FTFE and FTSE basis and then only the emerging research universities as well (full time faculty and full time student equivalent)....so looking at those numbers one can see that some universities are getting a disproportionate amount of state funding per full time student and per full time faculty member, but those universities are not UT Austin, TAMU or PVAMU and they are really not any of the emerging research universities......and more clearly one can see where WASTE AND POLITICS leads to universities not having the funding they desire because it is being WASTED on economic development projects in specific areas (hint hint look right at the very very very tippy top) FTFE University of North Texas at Dallas $150,430 $13,139 Texas A&M University-Texarkana $122,020 $11,802 The University of Texas of the Permian Basin $112,157 $10,442 Texas A&M International University $100,491 $7,802 Sul Ross State University $98,503 $12,883 The University of Texas-Pan American $87,598 $5,920 Texas A&M University-Central Texas $86,873 $9,093 Texas Southern University $79,066 $8,421 Texas A&M University at Galveston $77,353 $10,024 The University of Texas at Dallas $73,984 $6,679 Texas A&M University $69,559 $6,961 University of Houston $69,546 $6,002 The University of Texas at Austin $69,135 $7,584 Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi $68,723 $6,164 The University of Texas at El Paso $68,186 $5,984 University of Houston-Victoria $66,904 $5,784 Texas A&M University-San Antonio $65,380 $6,537 Texas A&M University-Kingsville $64,987 $6,958 Texas State University-San Marcos $63,646 $4,488 Statewide Totals $63,397 $5,871 Texas A&M University-Commerce $61,471 $5,156 The University of Texas at San Antonio $60,828 $5,105 The University of Texas at Tyler $59,999 $6,475 West Texas A&M University $59,741 $5,481 Lamar University $59,717 $4,660 Angelo State University $57,142 $5,930 Texas Tech University $56,863 $6,017 The University of Texas at Arlington $56,603 $4,949 The University of Texas at Brownsville $56,554 $3,844 Prairie View A&M University $55,498 $5,608 Tarleton State University $54,101 $5,097 Texas Woman's University $54,048 $5,310 Stephen F. Austin State University $52,420 $5,164 University of Houston-Clear Lake $48,711 $5,358 Sam Houston State University $47,891 $3,791 Midwestern State University $47,423 $4,981 University of North Texas $43,935 $4,204 University of Houston-Downtown $37,350 $3,514 By FTSE University of North Texas at Dallas $150,430 $13,139 Sul Ross State University $98,503 $12,883 Texas A&M University-Texarkana $122,020 $11,802 The University of Texas of the Permian Basin $112,157 $10,442 Texas A&M University at Galveston $77,353 $10,024 Texas A&M University-Central Texas $86,873 $9,093 Texas Southern University $79,066 $8,421 Texas A&M International University $100,491 $7,802 The University of Texas at Austin $69,135 $7,584 Texas A&M University $69,559 $6,961 Texas A&M University-Kingsville $64,987 $6,958 The University of Texas at Dallas $73,984 $6,679 Texas A&M University-San Antonio $65,380 $6,537 The University of Texas at Tyler $59,999 $6,475 Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi $68,723 $6,164 Texas Tech University $56,863 $6,017 University of Houston $69,546 $6,002 The University of Texas at El Paso $68,186 $5,984 The University of Texas-Pan American $87,598 $5,920 Angelo State University $57,142 $5,930 Statewide Totals $63,397 $5,871 University of Houston-Victoria $66,904 $5,784 Prairie View A&M University $55,498 $5,608 West Texas A&M University $59,741 $5,481 University of Houston-Clear Lake $48,711 $5,358 Texas Woman's University $54,048 $5,310 Stephen F. Austin State University $52,420 $5,164 Texas A&M University-Commerce $61,471 $5,156 The University of Texas at San Antonio $60,828 $5,105 Tarleton State University $54,101 $5,097 Midwestern State University $47,423 $4,981 The University of Texas at Arlington $56,603 $4,949 Texas State University-San Marcos $63,646 $4,488 Lamar University $59,717 $4,660 University of North Texas $43,935 $4,204 The University of Texas at Brownsville $56,554 $3,844 Sam Houston State University $47,891 $3,791 University of Houston-Downtown $37,350 $3,514 Research and emerging Research Only The University of Texas at Dallas $73,984 $6,679 Texas A&M University $69,559 $6,961 University of Houston $69,546 $6,002 The University of Texas at Austin $69,135 $7,584 The University of Texas at El Paso $68,186 $5,984 Texas State University-San Marcos $63,646 $4,488 Statewide Totals $63,397 $5,871 The University of Texas at San Antonio $60,828 $5,105 Texas Tech University $56,863 $6,017 The University of Texas at Arlington $56,603 $4,949 University of North Texas $43,935 $4,204 The University of Texas at Austin $69,135 $7,584 Texas A&M University $69,559 $6,961 The University of Texas at Dallas $73,984 $6,679 Texas Tech University $56,863 $6,017 University of Houston $69,546 $6,002 The University of Texas at El Paso $68,186 $5,984 Statewide Totals $63,397 $5,871 The University of Texas at San Antonio $60,828 $5,105 The University of Texas at Arlington $56,603 $4,949 Texas State University-San Marcos $63,646 $4,488 University of North Texas $43,935 $4,204

I never count on JUCO Fall semester enrollees. It's about 50/50 as to whether they make the grades/credits to be eligible. Talk to me when Loving is enrolled.

The problem with holding back on OCC opponents so that you can win more conference games is that by the end of the our four year undefeated run in the Sunbelt every casual fan basically said that we were now "king of the dipshits". We went to four bowls (and only won one) and had a four year undefeated run in our conference, but no one took us anymore seriously than before it all started. You want to get noticed and taken seriously? Then always show up in your "I didn't come here to lose" t-shirt......and play like it.

We will go 12-0 and win the national title!!!!11!!!1!! Better?

Actually, we saw deprovement (like that is even a word) from just about every player last year. Where many on here and I disagree is that it's the players' fault if the coaches can not get the maximum out of that player. I fall squarely in the camp of that being a coaching issue. Part of coaching is motivation. If you can't motivate your players to want to be the best that they can be at a game they love, then you don't deserve to be a head coach. You would think with the experience we have at the assistant level, this would not be a problem, yet it was a HUGE problem last year. While having experienced assistants is nice, they still answer to the head coach, who dictates the overall direction of the program. If there is an issue at the head, there will be issues throughout the team. Again, cross your fingers and say your prayers.

it is really not all that confusing unless one wants to try and cling to their status as super GMG insider with all knowledge of all goings on these are the same types of people that when the fee was first implemented said "no worries it can be raised and we are going to max out that raise every year"....well the fee was first implemented in the fall of 2011 at $10 and as it very clearly states on the north Texas fee website the fee for the all of 2013 is $10......so those that have been telling you all is well we are going to max it out every year were clearly wrong and the reality is when people ask why the fee is half of what Texas State can charge for 15 hours and half of what UTSA can charge for 12 hours the simple answer is because that is where the BOR and lee the idiot desire the fee to be and that is where it has remained since the fall of 2011 and where it will remain at least through the fall of 2013 so it will not have been raised for at least 2.5 years it is easiest I suppose for many to blame Brett Vito (shout out to scotty and the S board) or they can blame SexyTime and demand that Brett Vito and BigSexy be fired for not reporting daily about how the fee needs to be raised or for not going into their bosses office every day and demanding the fee be raised, but at some point Brett and the PizzaMan have to realize that those that have the ability to raise the fee are simply not interested in doing that so they can either report on other things and spend their time on other athletics endeavors, or they can browbeat people about things and probably be ask to find a new job eventually or they can work with what they have and hope something changes in the future if you read the actual legislation for Texas State http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00161F.htm and for north Texas http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/SB00473F.HTM there are things that are similar and things that are different.....the one for Texas State specified a single YEARLY raise of 5% and anything above that required a student vote......and that is exactly what Texas State did.....when they decided to move up to D1-A they had a vote by the students and the students voted to set the fee at $10 and allow the administration to raise it $2 per year for 5 straight years to $20 if they saw fit to do so.....and that is what happened and now in 2013 the fee is finally at $20 if you look at the north Texas legislation and you want to read it where it can be raised over and over you would really have to question why all the other language is in there about student votes and students setting a max amount in that vote and really why the 10% language is even in there......because if you read that it can be raised over and over 10% at a time then you would also see there is no YEARLY restriction as well......so just as fast as the BOR could vote yea or nay they could raise the fee 10% at a time to any level they wish over and over and over again.....$11 now $12.10 two minutes later $13.31 after that and on and on until it gets to any amount they wish...again that is just a ridiculous interpretation considering all of the other language that is contained in the bill about a student vote and setting the fee at $10 to start because it if can be raised over and over just based on a BOR vote with no yearly restriction or no monthly or even weekly restriction then the rest of that language is just a waste and would not have been included and all the worse from the point of view of "does the administration care" for those that view setting the fee at the same level as Texas State and UTSA as "caring" is IF (and it is a huge stretch to believe so) the BOR could really just vote over and over and over as fast as they can to raise it 10% at a time or even yearly(there is no language for a yearly restriction)......why have they not done so......why have they not done what all the "insiders" and the smoke blowers and sunshine pumpers said was a sure thing...and even if out of some sort of "just because" the only wanted to raise it 10% a year they could have raised the fee 10% immediately after the legislation was approved and had it at $11 dollars in the fall of 2011 and they could have then had it at $12.10 in the fall of 2012 and at $13.21 in the fall of 2013.......but in spite of all insider information and all assurances that all was well and everything was taking shape and the max was going to be voted in place every time it could be (which if you read it the way some do is as fast as the BOR can vote on it since there is no restrictions on how often it can be raised 10% by that silly interpretation) the BOR has not seen fit to vote on raising the fee a single time and they have not seen fit to put another vote to the students to see if they want to further raise the fee so while Texas state since the fall of 2011 has taken their fee from $16 dollars to $20 dollars (not only did the students vote to allow that to happen, but the university administration and BOR followed through on that ability and actually DID raise it each year) north Texas has seen fit to raise their fee from $10 in the fall of 2011 to a whopping $10 dollars in the fall of 2013.....for a grand total of ZERO now I realize that Brett probably Vitoed that (haha see what I did there) and SexyTime said that working with a larger budget than he currently has was not sexy and the UT System and Texas A&M and Texas Tech and other boogie men got in the ear of the BOR and affable semi-retired VLR and strong armed them into not raising the fee, but it is amazing that those same forces were not even able to do that same thing to UTSA that is just a "branch campus" of all powerful Austin and the were not able to go down the street from the UT System offices in Austin to the Texas State System offices in Austin and make those same threats and strong arm tactics in person so while it might be fun to be all knowing and an insider and read legislation any way you see fit the reality is until Brett Vito and BigSexy are run out of town, the north Texas BOR and administration is staffed with people that have a spine and or no major skeletons in their closet to be hung over their head and that can stand up to and resist the bullying tactics of Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, UH, SMU, Baylor, UTEP, TCU and Rice the fee is not going to increase.......or perhaps one could put down the sunshine pump, step away from the smoke blower, stop blaming the beat writer for the local rag, understand that the AD has a boss that he has to answer to and that boss has an idiot that he has to answer to and that idiot has the BOR basically rubber stamping his stupid ideas and realize that the chancellor and the BOR really have no interest in raising the athletics fee even 10% in the same time that Texas State has raised theirs $4 and you can run off all the reports, forum members and ADs you wish, but that is only going to make it easier for the chancellor and the BOR to keep on doing as they wish and ignoring the desires of those that would like to make sure athletics is funded to keep up with others that are just now moving up to D1-A and already have in place an athletics fee that is able to charge up to $90 to $150 more per student per semester than what north Texas has in place it is not about being the smartest person in the room it is about saying at some point you have to stop listening to all the "insiders" and those that say "it is getting done" and you have to stop blaming the reporters and the AD and you really have to look at the reality of the situation and ask if the ability to raise the fee is there why is it not being done and if the ability to raise it is not there why is something not being done about that other than some "insiders" telling everyone to remain calm super top secret plans are in place that will soon all be reveled to you in due time.....and then IF anything ever happens it takes MUCH longer than everyone expects or hopes for or that they were lead to believe it would take and it almost always ends up being much less than was anticipated as well.....it is like top secret fundraising (we recently saw that) or top secret presidential searches or top secret moves to get professional programs tied to the main campus instead of the community college component of the north Texas system and on and on so you can stick with the tl.dr and the cute GIFs and then in 3-5 years you can wake up and ask WTF why does everyone else have a higher fee, why are they able to jump right into the same conference we have wanted to be in for a decade after their first provisional year in D1-A or you can start to look at the real issues and understand what is being done (and not done).....and then I suppose you can blame Brett Vito again and call for the firing of SexyTime.....and then you will get a real wake up call when things stay exactly the same or get worse