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His junior year at Houston High School in Germantown.....he averaged 19ppg and 10 rpg. And he was a stud WR on their football team. https://slubillikens.com/news/2022/11/9/mens-basketball-brock-vice-signs-with-billikens.aspx

This is great news. I wanted us to get this kid last year. He originally signed with St. Louis....when Phil Forte was on their staff. But, like Layne Taylor with us, Brock got out of his letter of intent (with SLU)....and was back out being recruited. I hoped with the connection with Forte....that we'd get him last year.....but he went to Creighton.

Oh, make no mistake, if my current employer can't get close then I am gone.

Currently tied for eight with ECU after round one at +6. The leaders are at -3. The good news is that Tucker Allen is tied for first in the medalist race at -4. Our 3-5 players need to step up. I found it interesting that Diego Prone, our best returning player, didn't play the opening round.

Lost 4-1 to USF. Not a bad first year under a new coach.

We return the following guards: 5'9" So. Breanna Davis: Only played in 13 games (Daughter of Chris Davis) 5'8" So. Ereauna Hardaway: Started at PG. Good floor manager but doesn't score much. 5'8" R-Fr Desiree Wooten: Has the potential to be very good. 5'11" R-Fr Jahcelyn Hartfield: Only played in 7 games coming off an injured freshman year. 5'11" Fr. Shadasia Brackens: Played in 21 games. Incredible athlete that has the potential to be great. Brackens is listed as a G/F. Hartfield, with her height, could also play F. Brannon shot 40% from 3 this past year and provides experience this team needs since we lost Sham Duncan, J Moore, D Robinson and M Clearly from the backcourt.

You are the exception to the rule. No judgment here but for 99% of people if they can 3x their income they are absolutely going to do it. Most younger folks in my profession will jump at even marginal increases. Some of these kids are not going to be playing professional football so if they can get a free education and pocket 100-300k with their degree then they are absolutely entitled and should be encouraged to do so.

Aren't our pinstripes black?

He couldn't crack the depth chart on a poor defense. I think he was told to look elsewhere.

That's generally dependent upon my happiness. If I really like where I am at then I would see if my current employer would try to come close. If they could get somewhat close, I would stay. But I would at least give my employer the opportunity to match given my happiness level. What I would not do is jump on it with zero to minimal communication and thank god on twitter.

Sounds like he was a pretty good prospect coming out of high school. "Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay. The 6-foot-10 power forward Brock Vice (Germantown, Tenn. / Houston HS) has signed a National Letter of Intent to attend Creighton and play for the Bluejays. He's ranked as the nation's No. 33 best center prospect by 247Sports and the No. 3 overall player in the state of Tennessee" Brock Vice is a Creighton Bluejay (247sports.com)

Would you be loyal to your employer if a competitor came along and offered to 3x your salary? And SMU was not even one of the first to put together a Collective so again the incessant hate is irrational and misguided.

Yep. This won't change Deon's coaching style. This kid, like many before him and many will follow, thinks he is too good and doesn't have the work ethic. Through HS they get by on talent alone, but now he is surrounded by talent and work ethic makes the difference. This kid will fail wherever he goes unless he changes his attitude.

Small correction on Spud Webb (Wilmer-Hutchins HS) Additions: CJ Miles, (Dallas Skyline & directly to the NBA) Kevin Miles, (Dallas Samuel, Texas Tech) Steven Miles (Dallas Samuel, Texas Tech) Jason Sasser, (Dallas Kimball, Texas Tech and NBA) Jeryl Sasser, (Dallas Kimball, SMU). LaMarcus Aldridge, Dallas Seagoville, UT & NBA. Donald Sloan (Seagoville, Texas A&M) Derrick Battie, (SOC, Temple Univ. & NBA) Brokeith Pane (Dallas Carter, UH) Michael Crabtree (Dallas Carter, Texas Tech - football only) Ira Terrell (Dallas Roosevelt, SMU & NBA) Sammy Hervey (Crozier Tech, SMU) J'Mison Morgan (SOC, UCLA & Baylor) DeWayne Scales, (Dallas Carter & LSU) Vernon Smith (Dallas Carter & Texas A&M) Carl Wright, (Dallas Roosevelt, SMU) Rynn Wright (Dallas Roosevelt, Texas A&M) Dave Stallworth (Dallas Madison & NBA) Alton Lister, (Woodrow Wilson & NBA) Kurt Thomas, (Dallas Hillcrest, TCU & NBA Anthony Randolph, (Woodrow Wilson, LSU & NBA) Maceo Baston (Dallas Spruce & Michigan) Quinton Ross (Dallas Kimball, SMU & NBA) Acie Law, (Dallas Kimball, Texas A&M) Pat Durham (Wilmer Hutchins, NBA) Reginald Muhammad (Wilmer Hutchins, SMU) Jalen Jones, (Dallas Kimball, A&M & NBA) Jawun Evans, (Dallas Kimball, Oklahoma St & NBA) Ricky Grace (Wilmer Hutchins & OU) Marcus Garrett, (Skyline, Kansas & NBA) CJ Massingburg, (SOC, U of Buffalo & NBA) Michael Williams, (Dallas Carter, Baylor & NBA) Gary Flowers, (Dallas Lincoln, Southern Miss) LaMarcus Reed, (Dallas Skyline & UTA) Darryl Joe, (Dallas SOC & LSU) Trey Davis, (Woodrow Wilson, George Washington U) Kevin Rogers (Dallas SOC & Baylor) Le'Bryan Nash, (Dallas Lincoln & SMU) Terry Edwards, (Dallas Bryan Adams, Wichita St) Anthony Goode, (Dallas Carter, UTA) Lamar Wright, (Dallas Carter, UT) Tyrone Maxey (Dallas Hillcrest, Washington St) DaJuan Eubanks, (Dallas Kimball, Rice) Richard Evans, (Dallas Kimball, New Mexico) Charles Gentry, (Dallas Kimball, Colorado) Lonnie Gusters (Dallas Kimball, SFA) Chris Jackson, (Dallas Kimball, New Mexico) - original UNT signee Dandrick Jones, (Dallas Kimball) Jayson Walton, (Dallas Kimball, Minnesoto) Willie Black, (Dallas Lincoln) Carlton Dixon, (Dallas Lincoln, UT) Damian Walker, (Dallas Lincoln, TCU) Ellis Kidd Jr (Dallas Madison, Oklahoma St, Baylor) Ollie Hoops, (Dallas Pinkston, SMU) Anthony Snowdon, (Dallas Pinkston, UTEP) Edward Wheeler, (Dallas Seagoville, Texas A&M) Jamal Brown, (Dallas Skyline, Texas Tech) - original UNT signee James Felder (Dallas Skyline) Terrance Thomas, (Dallas A. Maceo Smith, Baylor) David Burns, (Dallas SOC, St Louis) Cardell Love (Dallas SOC, Tulsa) Rodney Samuel, (Dallas SOC, W. Virginia) Kenneth "Grasshopper" Smith, (Dallas SOC, Tulsa) Jeff Howard, (Dallas Thomas Jefferson) Joel Donaldson, (Wilmer Hutchins, SFA) Cullen Mayfield, (Dallas SOC, Midwestern St) Larry Joe Harris (Dallas SOC, Navarro) David Fisher, (Dallas SOC, New Mexico St) UNT/NTSU (DISD) Players: Jeremy Combs, (Dallas Carter) Kenneth Williams, SOC (Nation's Rebounding leader) Charles McMillian (SOC) Waymond Lister (SOC) Deon Hunter (SOC) George Odufawa (Dallas Kimball) Keith Frazier (Kimball) Ricky Robertson, (Dallas Roosevelt) Alzee Williams (Dallas Carter) Norvell Miles (Dallas SOC) Kevie Gulley (Dallas SOC) Jerome Rogers, (Dallas Madison) Dyalan Beamon, (Dallas Kimball) Ray Schufford, (Dallas Kimball) Arlin White, (Dallas Kimball) Calvin Williams, (Dallas Kimball) Will Smith, (Dallas Lincoln) Dexter Tennell, (Dallas Kimball, Irving High) Donald Williams, (Dallas Pinkston) Unjel Masters, (Dallas SOC) David Vasher, (Wilmer Hutchins) William Smith (Wilmer Hutchins)

If the rumor of Ross suggesting out best players enter the portal to do what's best for them then my trust tank will start getting holes in it real quick...

Wasn't he injured in high school which kind of allowed us to swoop in pick him up? I wonder if he was progressing. Is he entering the portal? I may have uncovered why he is leaving. He signed as a 6' 205 lb. LB and after a year in our program he shrunk from 6' to 5'10" and ballooned to 220 lb. (someone will get upset or dispute that last sentence thinking I was serious)

Spot on.

Black jerseys tonight, pinstripes tomorrow, green on Sunday. Believe it or not, that's progress. We didn't wear green at all last weekend.

Yep. About the only thing NT and Denton have successfully partnered on. Missed my point. The NIL was created to allow players to earn money off of their "Name, Image and Likeness". Schools, smuT comes to mind, decided to bend the rules and create collectives to essentially pay kids a salary for being on the roster. Had nothing at all to do with NIL. The NCAA got scared of being sued and drop the ball and set this up with zero oversight. The change, to me, is this. I support UNT because it is my school. I liked watching kids like Scott Hall, Johnny Quinn, Patrick Cobbs, etc. sign with NT, fall in love with playing here, work hard, develop over their four years, honor them on Senior Day and become Hall of Famers. That is gone. Today's kids are loyal to the money and don't give a damn about NT.

Because that takes legwork and forward thinking. Let's not be silly. I started paying attention to UNT in 2011. Got plugged in around 2012, and started to pay very closer attention in late 12/ early 2013. The athletic department has done nothing but prove its a good ole boy system filled with self serving people from top to bottom. I said it a few days ago, but the University has to look into the hiring processes and the hiring of North Texas people must be the next step. Put a lighter on the do nothing leeches and get people in there that care more about the success of North Texas than they do about the success of themselves.

I believe this, but it would take the city getting involved and the AD giving two shits about the future of this program. All they do is ask the alumni to give and give more. What is my ROI? Watching Edwards and Nolan show up for a year and then move along? I would rather give that money to a scholarship my family established at North Texas to provide for current students and young men and women that are preparing for their future. UNT has wasted opportunity after opportunity to move up. They own valuable I35 real estate that millions of vehicles pass daily. Any naming rights sold for those facilities? Memphis has the FedEx Forum. Why not the Peterbilt Super Pit with signage along the roof of the building?

Its a different story when you are comparing blue blood programs. Alabama can recruit anyone from anywhere. Memphis can't (and still won't despite a fairly impressive NIL commitment).

UTSA absolutely does not have a better location. SA is not a great area for HS football talent and they do not have deep NIL pockets. They are maximizing their value and holding the programs to a high standard. Good for them. But if you poll the vast majority of G5 coaches/administrators on which program has a better foundation I'd argue most would lean towards UNT.